[RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP

Olli Aro olli_aro at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Jul 11 03:48:24 PDT 2009


Just to clarify. What you are doing here is just transferring the land
ownership within an estate. The estate owner remains and that is the one
that is billed by LL.

 

Olli

 

From: regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
[mailto:regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Olli Aro
Sent: 10 July 2009 21:45
To: 'Andrew Hughes'
Cc: regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com; 'regapi'
Subject: Re: [RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP

 

Yes the original payer remains. 

 

Olli

 

From: designingdigitallyinc at gmail.com
[mailto:designingdigitallyinc at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Hughes
Sent: 10 July 2009 21:14
To: Olli Aro
Cc: regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com; regapi
Subject: Re: [RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP

 

HI Olli,

 

If I sell the entire island to a limited estate user will I have to put
payment info in and have that avatar now pay for the island? Or will it just
keep the orginal owner of the island the same?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Olli Aro <olli_aro at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Have you tried the following:

 

1)      Have your island first public access and single land mass.

2)      Create one user as limited to estate.

3)      Sell the whole land mass to this user.

4)      Create a new group as this user.

5)      Deed the whole land mass to that group.

6)      Split off a small piece of land as your RegAPI landing area.

7)      Make the larger land mass group access only in about land.

8)      Register user and offer group membership after registered.

 

So, what the estate is still public access, but most of the land is group
access only.

 

Apologies, if you have tried something similar already and I missed it in
the email thread.

 

Regards,

 

Olli

 

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[mailto:regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Hughes
Sent: 10 July 2009 19:13
To: Lewis E Moten
Cc: regapi; regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
Subject: Re: [RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP

 

Hi Everyone,

I am really at a stand still on this. Does anyone know why we would have an
issue with the group situations? Can anyone shed light on what has been
stated below?

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Hughes
<hughes at designingdigitally.com> wrote:

Hi Lewis,

 

Thanks for your comments. I have provided this response in hope that anyone
out there can help me get this taken care of? I have made comments to your
questions. Let me know your thoughts.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Lewis E Moten <lmoten at csc.com> wrote:


You can not set or deed the group in the "About Land" unless you own the
land. (I was using the owner of the land to do this) 

 

 

Have you tried setting it for sale and then having an existing group member
purchase/deed the land on behalf of the group? 

 

I want the owner of the land to be in the group that the land is deeded to.
The owner of the land should be able to join the restricted user made group,
and/or the ownser of the land should be able to make a group and only add
the restricted users to that group. Or am I incorrect? 

 


This sounds like the steps to reproduce your scenario: 

1. Create Estate with 1 or more islands 
2. Create User with limited_to_estate 
3. Create group with new user as the owner 
4. Add restricted users to group who are restricted to estate 
5. Grant estate access for group 
6. Error 

 

My Attempts Were:

 

1. Create Estate with 1 owner

2. Set land to newly made group by owner, (only owner is in it) and set
group to the land

3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is restricted to that newly
made group)

4. Create user using RegAPI

5. Login as that user

6. See red lines all over but the spot you land b/c it was set to public

7. Owner of land tries to add user to group

8. ERROR

 

Other way we tried:

 

1. Create Estate with 1 owner

2. Do not set any of the land YET.

3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is WILL BE restricted (see
below))

4. Create user using RegAPI

5. Login as that user

6. Give 100L to new user and have them make the group

7. Add other new registrated users from RegAPI with no problem........ No
matter how many peeeps made with RegAPI I can add them all to that group.

8. Try to add estate owner (so you can set that new made group to be the
only group allowed on the rest of the island).

9. ERROR

 

Finally the last way I tried:

 

1. Create Estate with 1 owner

2. Do not set any of the land YET.

3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is WILL BE restricted (see
below))

4. Create user using RegAPI

5. Login as that user

6. Give 100L to new user and have them make the group

7. Add other new registrated users from RegAPI with no problem........ No
matter how many peeeps made with RegAPI I can add them all to that group.

8. Make newly made avatar from RegAPI an estate manager so they can set the
island to restricted to the group they are a part of.

9. ERROR (you must be owner of land to do that)

 

 

So do I sell the land to the regAPI user? What about the admin avatar that
payment is coming from? Will it affect at all?

 



I'm curious as to why the estate owner themselves can not join the group
that one of your created user accounts had made. Perhaps the group or one of
its members has been granted estate access to an estate that you do not have
access to as a restricted user? Did you grant estate access to the group
before or after you started assigning users to it? Try creating a group
first with your estate owner, and granting estate access to it before
inviting new users to the group. 

 

Tried this... fail. :(

 

 



Are you working on the teen grid? 

 

not for this issue.. but I have another issue with RegAPI and teen grid. It
will not let anyone land on an island no matter what.. opened entire island
up to public. Worked 1 year ago when client signed off.. we registered
people for them... then stopped working, it registers someone but no matter
what XYZ we put them they will not land on the teen grid island... they land
on help island and cannot get to our island... and avatars we had put over
from SL by LL cannot see anyone on teen grid so we cannot even invite the
newly reg'd people... I have been back and forth with this.. but we can
discuss this issue after I get the one above taken care of. LOL


Does the region owner own multiple estates? 

 

Nope

 


Has the region been transferred to a new owner? 

 

Nope


Has someone joined the group that is limited to a different estate that you
do not own? 

 

Nope, its' a new group.. make 4 groups so far trying to get this issue. 

 


Was the group previously assigned to the estate and recently removed? 

 

nope.



If all else fails, Pink Floyd recommends using two hammers to break down
brick walls. 

 

All I see is the dark side of the moon right now. LOL




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Hi Guys, 
  
I need some help....We are trying to keep our island private, limit users to
this estate, and we want to put the limited users into a group that has full
access to the island (obviously so we can keep it private). We have been
back and forth with this issue, and hopefully someone can shed some light on
the info below: 
  
As told to do by LL, we created a group with one of the newly registered
users that create on our regAPI. 
  
We then log in as the estate owner to add this group to the list of allowed
groups to the island and we get the same error we always get: 
  
"Unable to invite users because at least one user is in a different limited
estate than the group...." 
  
So what I am saying is this: 
  
New users can make a group and can add each other to a group, we cannot put
the estate owner in that group to set that group to have access to the
island. We do not want anyone coming to this island except for the newly
registered users and the estate managers. But right now all we can do is
resister the users on the small piece of land we made public so they can be
born for the first time. From there we cannot get them access to the rest of
the island unless we set the entire thing to public, and/or give EACH of the
new registered users Estate Manager privileges (which is NOT what we want to
do). We have tried having the estate owner make a group and add them to the
group, that does not work. We tried adding the newly registered person that
just made a new group as an estate manager to set the island to that newly
made group, no luck on that either... 
  
It is ridiculous to think we cannot have newly limited to this island users
set in a group after they are born and they are the only ones to have access
to this island. We want no one in this island (except people we set as
estate managers so the island has to be set to a group) or out (the reason
why we set it to a limited user account to that estate only using RegAPI).  
   
We cannot add the estate manager to the group, therefore cannot set to the
island..... We hit a brick wall... What can be done? 
   
The newly registered user cannot change the group that in About Land>General
because they are not the land owner and the land owner cannot change it
because they cannot be invited to the group. Even if we set them to estate
managers we still cannot get past this barrier. 


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