[RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP

Andrew Hughes hughes at designingdigitally.com
Fri Jul 10 13:14:17 PDT 2009


HI Olli,

If I sell the entire island to a limited estate user will I have to put
payment info in and have that avatar now pay for the island? Or will it just
keep the orginal owner of the island the same?

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Olli Aro <olli_aro at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>  Have you tried the following:
>
>
>
> 1)      Have your island first public access and single land mass.
>
> 2)      Create one user as limited to estate.
>
> 3)      Sell the whole land mass to this user.
>
> 4)      Create a new group as this user.
>
> 5)      Deed the whole land mass to that group.
>
> 6)      Split off a small piece of land as your RegAPI landing area.
>
> 7)      Make the larger land mass group access only in about land.
>
> 8)      Register user and offer group membership after registered.
>
>
>
> So, what the estate is still public access, but most of the land is group
> access only.
>
>
>
> Apologies, if you have tried something similar already and I missed it in
> the email thread.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Olli
>
>
>
> *From:* regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com [mailto:
> regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Hughes
> *Sent:* 10 July 2009 19:13
> *To:* Lewis E Moten
> *Cc:* regapi; regapi-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates -
> HELP
>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am really at a stand still on this. Does anyone know why we would have an
> issue with the group situations? Can anyone shed light on what has been
> stated below?
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Hughes <
> hughes at designingdigitally.com> wrote:
>
> *Hi Lewis,*
>
>
>
> *Thanks for your comments. I have provided this response in hope that
> anyone out there can help me get this taken care of? I have made comments to
> your questions. Let me know your thoughts.*
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Lewis E Moten <lmoten at csc.com> wrote:
>
>
> You can not set or deed the group in the "About Land" unless you own the
> land. *(I was using the owner of the land to do this)*
>
>
>
>
>
> Have you tried setting it for sale and then having an existing group member
> purchase/deed the land on behalf of the group?
>
>
>
> *I want the owner of the land to be in the group that the land is deeded
> to. The owner of the land should be able to join the restricted user made
> group, and/or the ownser of the land should be able to make a group and only
> add the restricted users to that group. Or am I incorrect?*
>
>
>
>
> This sounds like the steps to reproduce your scenario:
>
> 1. Create Estate with 1 or more islands
> 2. Create User with limited_to_estate
> 3. Create group with new user as the owner
> 4. Add restricted users to group who are restricted to estate
> 5. Grant estate access for group
> 6. Error
>
>
>
> *My Attempts Were:*
>
>
>
> *1. Create Estate with 1 owner*
>
> *2. Set land to newly made group by owner, (only owner is in it) and set
> group to the land*
>
> *3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
> regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is restricted to that newly
> made group)*
>
> *4. Create user using RegAPI*
>
> *5. Login as that user*
>
> *6. See red lines all over but the spot you land b/c it was set to public*
>
> *7. Owner of land tries to add user to group*
>
> *8. ERROR*
>
> * *
>
> *Other way we tried:*
>
> * *
>
> *1. Create Estate with 1 owner*
>
> *2. Do not set any of the land YET.*
>
> *3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
> regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is WILL BE restricted (see
> below))*
>
> *4. Create user using RegAPI*
>
> *5. Login as that user*
>
> *6. Give 100L to new user and have them make the group*
>
> *7. Add other new registrated users from RegAPI with no problem........ No
> matter how many peeeps made with RegAPI I can add them all to that group.*
>
> *8. Try to add estate owner (so you can set that new made group to be the
> only group allowed on the rest of the island).*
>
> *9. ERROR*
>
>
>
> *Finally the last way I tried:*
>
>
>
> *1. Create Estate with 1 owner*
>
> *2. Do not set any of the land YET.*
>
> *3. Split small piece of parcel to public so you can have new people from
> regAPI actually be born on your island (b/c rest is WILL BE restricted (see
> below))*
>
> *4. Create user using RegAPI*
>
> *5. Login as that user*
>
> *6. Give 100L to new user and have them make the group*
>
> *7. Add other new registrated users from RegAPI with no problem........ No
> matter how many peeeps made with RegAPI I can add them all to that group.*
>
> *8. Make newly made avatar from RegAPI an estate manager so they can set
> the island to restricted to the group they are a part of.*
>
> *9. ERROR (you must be owner of land to do that)*
>
>
>
>
>
> *So do I sell the land to the regAPI user? What about the admin avatar
> that payment is coming from? Will it affect at all?*
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm curious as to why the estate owner themselves can not join the group
> that one of your created user accounts had made. Perhaps the group or one of
> its members has been granted estate access to an estate that you do not have
> access to as a restricted user? Did you grant estate access to the group
> before or after you started assigning users to it? Try creating a group
> first with your estate owner, and granting estate access to it before
> inviting new users to the group.
>
>
>
> *Tried this... fail. :(*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Are you working on the teen grid?
>
>
>
> *not for this issue.. but I have another issue with RegAPI and teen grid.
> It will not let anyone land on an island no matter what.. opened entire
> island up to public. Worked 1 year ago when client signed off.. we
> registered people for them... then stopped working, it registers someone but
> no matter what XYZ we put them they will not land on the teen grid island...
> they land on help island and cannot get to our island... and avatars we had
> put over from SL by LL cannot see anyone on teen grid so we cannot even
> invite the newly reg'd people... I have been back and forth with this.. but
> we can discuss this issue after I get the one above taken care of. LOL*
>
>
> Does the region owner own multiple estates?
>
>
>
> *Nope*
>
>
>
>
> Has the region been transferred to a new owner?
>
>
>
> *Nope*
>
>
> Has someone joined the group that is limited to a different estate that you
> do not own?
>
>
>
> *Nope, its' a new group.. make 4 groups so far trying to get this issue. *
>
>
>
>
> Was the group previously assigned to the estate and recently removed?
>
>
>
> *nope.*
>
>
>
> If all else fails, Pink Floyd recommends using two hammers to break down
> brick walls.
>
>
>
> *All I see is the dark side of the moon right now. LOL*
>
>
>
>
> Lewis Edward Moten III
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>   *Andrew Hughes <hughes at designingdigitally.com>*
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> 07/07/2009 03:21 PM
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> [RegAPIList] RegAPI & Group Issue for Limited Estates - HELP
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I need some help....We are trying to keep our island private, limit users
> to this estate, and we want to put the limited users into a group that has
> full access to the island (obviously so we can keep it private). We have
> been back and forth with this issue, and hopefully someone can shed some
> light on the info below:
>
> As told to do by LL, we created a group with one of the newly registered
> users that create on our regAPI.
>
> We then log in as the estate owner to add this group to the list of allowed
> groups to the island and we get the same error we always get:
>
> "Unable to invite users because at least one user is in a different limited
> estate than the group...."
>
> So what I am saying is this:
>
> New users can make a group and can add each other to a group, we cannot put
> the estate owner in that group to set that group to have access to the
> island. We do not want anyone coming to this island except for the newly
> registered users and the estate managers. But right now all we can do is
> resister the users on the small piece of land we made public so they can be
> born for the first time. From there we cannot get them access to the rest of
> the island unless we set the entire thing to public, and/or give EACH of the
> new registered users Estate Manager privileges (which is NOT what we want to
> do). We have tried having the estate owner make a group and add them to the
> group, that does not work. We tried adding the newly registered person that
> just made a new group as an estate manager to set the island to that newly
> made group, no luck on that either...
>
> It is ridiculous to think we cannot have newly limited to this island users
> set in a group after they are born and they are the only ones to have access
> to this island. We want no one in this island (except people we set
> as estate managers so the island has to be set to a group) or out (the
> reason why we set it to a limited user account to that estate only using
> RegAPI).
>
> We cannot add the estate manager to the group, therefore cannot set to the
> island..... We hit a brick wall... What can be done?
>
> The newly registered user cannot change the group that in About
> Land>General because they are not the land owner and the land owner cannot
> change it because they cannot be invited to the group. Even if we set them
> to estate managers we still cannot get past this barrier.
>
>
> --
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>
> Andrew M Hughes
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