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>    1. Re: Really. Shabby. Behavior. (Troy McConaghy)
>    2. Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Alan Haywood via LinkedIn)
>    3. Re: Really. Shabby. Behavior. (Turner,Dudley B)
>    4. Re: Really. Shabby. Behavior. (Lee, Peggy Daniels)
>    5. Re: Student appropriate sandboxes (Martin, Jocelyn)
>    6. Re: Student appropriate sandboxes (Virtual Native Lands)
>    7. Re: Student appropriate sandboxes (Fred Griffith)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:26:31 -0700
> From: Troy McConaghy <troy at troymcconaghy.com>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Really. Shabby. Behavior.
> To: "SL Educators (The SLED List)" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
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> Okay so let me see if I have this right.
> 
> Stevan Lieberman is an intellectual property lawyer and "the sole
> investor and majority owner of Spoton3d."
> 
> According to the website of his law firm (Greenberg & Lieberman):
> 
> "Stevan Lieberman, Esq, is a Washington D.C. based attorney who spends
> most of his professional time focused on prosecution and litigation in
> intellectual property law, especially domain name / Internet law and
> Internet Technologies... His law firm, Greenberg & Lieberman, LLC,
> established its office in Second Life in March 2006 and began building
> it's own 3D grid, Spoton3D.com at the end of 2008. Since then
> Greenberg & Lieberman, LLC has provided legal help to numerous SL
> clients and recently some Spoton3D clients."
> 
> According to the Spoton3D blog:
> 
> "Come join the SpotOn3D? team on December 15th 2010 between 2 and 3 pm
> pacific time for a "crash the cloud" OpenSim stress test. We're
> looking for over a 100 avatars to join us for this pre-upgrade
> benchmark test on the performance difference of OpenSim v6.9 vs v7.1
> backend on a dedicated cloud instance."
> 
> In other words, the Spoton3D grid is powered by OpenSim. Not that that
> was ever in question.
> 
> The Spoton3D web client apparently uses FireBreath.
> 
> FireBreath is licensed under a dual license structure; this means you
> can choose which of two licenses to use it under. FireBreath can be
> used under the New BSD license or the GNU Lesser General Public
> License v2.1.
> 
> So FireBreath is open source, but that doesn't mean what it does can't
> be patented. So what Spoton3D is doing may be well within their legal
> rights.
> 
> As far as I know, Spoton3D has never disclosed what exactly they've
> filed patent applications for. They just want to create a bunch of
> fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding the whole idea of connecting
> to a virtual world from within a web browser.
> 
> The process of connecting to a game or virtual world from a web
> browser isn't new. Web games and virtual worlds have been doing that
> for a long time, going back to the VRML days. I don't see how you
> could get any new patents around that idea.
> 
> But you know, lawyers will be lawyers. They'll try to sqeak all kinds
> of nonsense past the patent examiners.
> 
> And really, what did you expect? A rich IP lawyer sees a get-richer
> scheme that involves taking advantage of the crazy US patent system.
> Don't blame the lawyer, blame the system --- and take steps to reform
> it.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Troy McConaghy
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Rolig Loon <rolig.loon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hehehe ... I don't mind being the snarky one. Besides, it was a serious
> > observation. As I told students and my own kids for ages, don't expect
> > people to take you seriously if they are distracted by your poor
> > communication skills.
> >
> > Rolig
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Sharon Collingwood
> > <sharon_collingwood at me.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I was going to mention that, but didn't want to seem overly snarky.
> >>
> >> On Sep 5, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Rolig Loon wrote:
> >>
> >> Irritating, yes, and mildly subliterate. (I know .... I make typos too,
> >> but consistent spelling and grammatical errors in a business communication
> >> never inspire confidence.)
> >>
> >>
> >> sharon_collingwood at me.com
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:28:23 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Alan Haywood via LinkedIn <member at linkedin.com>
> Subject: [SLED] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
> To: Chris Hambly <Educators at lists.secondlife.com>
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> LinkedIn
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> 
> 
>     Alan Haywood requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
>   
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> 
> Chris,
> 
> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
> 
> - Alan
> 
> Accept invitation from Alan Haywood
> http://www.linkedin.com/e/-phdvas-gs8qkul7-2z/vpQrj9gWru0YC6Xibk9OCSx3Iu01pXkEzHlRiygyCQvS2A/blk/I3086257333_2/1BpC5vrmRLoRZcjkkZt5YCpnlOt3RApnhMpmdzgmhxrSNBszYOnPcPcPsRczoUc3d9bSxctDxMcTBkbPAQejcNcjoVc3gLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/?hs=false&tok=3AUV4DkALkvQU1
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> View invitation from Alan Haywood
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:38:38 -0400
> From: "Turner,Dudley B" <barlow at uakron.edu>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Really. Shabby. Behavior.
> To: "SL Educators (The SLED List)" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
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> "Don't blame the lawyer, blame the system --- and take steps to reform
> it."
> 
> I disagree - blame the lawyer, too.  Both need reformed.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:34:31 +0000
> From: "Lee, Peggy Daniels" <pedalee at iupui.edu>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Really. Shabby. Behavior.
> To: "SL Educators (The SLED List)" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
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> Thanks to you all (especially Sharon) for a most enlightening conversation regarding SpotOn3D.  My "gut" told me that there was something "interesting" going on.  Now I know what. 
> 
> I bought an island there after Linden Labs announced that they would do away with the education discount, thinking we might move our island.  My Dean said stay put, but I kept the island at SO3D anyway.  I didn't visit for some months and when I returned, my island had been moved with no warning from Tessa.  Not good.
> 
> I intend to discontinue our association with them and this just adds another reason.    
> 
> Peggy 
> 
> Peggy Daniels Lee, Ph.D. (SL:  Linda Sautereau)
> Clinical Assistant Professor of Operations and Supply Chain Management
> Faculty Chair for Undergraduate Programs
> Estate Manager for Kelley School of Business Indianapolis Virtual Campus in Second Life
> Kelley School of Business
> Indiana University
> 801 W. Michigan Street   BS 4045
> Indianapolis, Indiana 46202
> 317-274-8745 (office)
> 317-274-3312 (fax)
> ________________________________________
> From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com [educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] on behalf of Turner,Dudley B [barlow at uakron.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:38 AM
> To: SL Educators (The SLED List)
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Really. Shabby. Behavior.
> 
> "Don't blame the lawyer, blame the system --- and take steps to reform
> it."
> 
> I disagree - blame the lawyer, too.  Both need reformed.
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:39:17 -0500
> From: "Martin, Jocelyn" <martinj at apsu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Student appropriate sandboxes
> To: "SL Educators (The SLED List)" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
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> My personal experience with NCI has been very bad over the years, ranging from being totally ignored when I asked a question, to being mocked by the group of locals. I wouldn't send a new person there. 
> 
> Jocelyn S. Martin
>  
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 07:56:18 -0700
> From: "Virtual Native Lands" <virtualnativelands at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Student appropriate sandboxes
> To: "'SL Educators \(The SLED List\)'"
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> Sorry to hear that.  I got a great deal of help from NCI when I was new to
> Second Life.  I often send newcomers there.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
> [mailto:educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Martin, Jocelyn
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:39 AM
> To: SL Educators (The SLED List)
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Student appropriate sandboxes
> 
> My personal experience with NCI has been very bad over the years, ranging
> from being totally ignored when I asked a question, to being mocked by the
> group of locals. I wouldn't send a new person there. 
> 
> Jocelyn S. Martin
>  
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:49:24 -0400
> From: Fred Griffith <computertutor at mfx.net>
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Student appropriate sandboxes
> To: educators at lists.secondlife.com
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> I am also sorry to hear of Jocelyn's experience. I still participate 
> weekly in various NCI events. While I have not been present at all 
> events, I have never been aware of anyone being ignored, much less being 
> mocked.  It is still one of the first places I would recommend to 
> someone new to SL.  That is my own two cents...
> 
> Fred Griffith
> Technus Grayman in world
> 
> On 9/6/2011 10:56 AM, Virtual Native Lands wrote:
> > Sorry to hear that.  I got a great deal of help from NCI when I was new to
> > Second Life.  I often send newcomers there.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
> > [mailto:educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Martin, Jocelyn
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:39 AM
> > To: SL Educators (The SLED List)
> > Subject: Re: [SLED] Student appropriate sandboxes
> >
> > My personal experience with NCI has been very bad over the years, ranging
> > from being totally ignored when I asked a question, to being mocked by the
> > group of locals. I wouldn't send a new person there.
> >
> > Jocelyn S. Martin
> >
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