[SLED] Sense of Place

J King jking at griffinworldwide.net
Sun Nov 15 15:16:13 PST 2009


And like God they are jealous and vengeful

 

 

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From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
[mailto:educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne
Stauffer
Sent: 15 November 2009 23:13
To: SL Educators (The SLED List)
Subject: Re: [SLED] Sense of Place

 

It's reductionist in other ways, too. Possibly it's true that the
fundamental difference between SL and RL is that in RL we are coporeal --
but that fact has so many ramifications in terms for individuals and for
society. Values, mores, laws all are based on the fact that we are physical
beings interacting with other physical beings.

 

In RL, we are only one. If we try to be someone else, we are still us even
while being someone else. In SL, we can have multiple avatars, each one
separate and distinct.

 

We are always some fixed place in RL -- if I'm not in one place, I'm in
another. Where does my avatar go when I logout? Has anyone had the
experience of appearing in SL only to find that someone else is occupying
the same space? I worry that if I leave myself in a public place in SL, I'll
come back to find someone else sitting or standing on me, so I always go to
a place that I know will be deserted. At least then no one can me with a
bald head!

 

Oh, yes, and one other difference between SL and RL -- in SL, we know for a
fact that there is a god and its name is Linden Labs. 

 

Suzanne M. Stauffer, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Science
Louisiana State University
275 Coates Hall
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
(225)578-1461
Fax: (225)578-4581
stauffer at lsu.edu

 

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From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com on behalf of AJ
Sent: Sun 11/15/2009 1:33 PM
To: SL Educators (The SLED List)
Subject: Re: [SLED] Sense of Place

Meatspace?  Ack - that is, imho, even worse (I'd have said distasteful, but
the pun was too much for me to bear).

This reduces humans to "meat" - and, personally, it just sounds creepy.




On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Morgan Leigh <morgan at wirejunkie.com> wrote:

Greetings, I also dislike 'real world' and choose to use meatspace as it
really reminds me of one of the few real differences.

Regards,

Morgan Leigh
PhD Candidate
School of History, Philosophy, Religion and Classics
University of Queensland
http://slurl.com/secondlife/UQ%20Religion%20Bazaar/127/49/48


AJ wrote:
> Esme, thanks for sharing this - very compelling.  I can certainly say
> I've had a similar experience.
>
> This is one reason why I do not use the term "real world", because there
> is absolutely nothing unreal about my experiences in the virtual world.
> I've adopt Tom Boelstorff's use of "actual world".  If you've not read
> his book, "Coming of Age in Second Life", I recommend it.  Its an
> ethnographic look at Second Life and very well done, I thought.
>
> aj
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Esme Qunhua <esmequnhua at gmail.com

> <mailto:esmequnhua at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I attended a meeting recently in Second Life.  It happened to be a
>     particularly good meeting, the discussion lively, some fascinating
>     speakers using voice, lots of productive back chatter.  When it was
>     over I returned to the physical world, to getting ready for dinner.
>     I told a friend about the session and was asked if, when leaving SL,
>     did I have to transition back to the physical world.  I imagined for
>     a second, my molecules reentering the atomosphere, organizing
>     themselves into my office chair.  I responded that there was no need
>     for cautious decompression, but...  My memory is of "that place and
>     those people," meaning the meeting venue and the avatars around the
>     table.  When I am engaged in second life, I have little awareness or
>     memory of my self sitting alone in an office behind a computer.
>
>     When I am in Second Life I am there in one of the many places.  I'm
>     wondering if the sense of place is an experience that comes
>     naturally to all users?  Is it something that develops as you spend
>     time in SL?  Do students end up spending enough time in SL to have
>     the place experience?
>
>     What do you think?
>
>     --
>     Esme Qunhua/Jane Wilde
>     Geek
>     Faculty, Marlboro College Grad Center
>     Marlboro College Graduate School
>     28 Vernon Street, Suite 120
>     Brattleboro, VT 05301
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