[SLED] Message for NON-ENGLISH SLED MEMBERS
kscott65 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 18 05:55:46 PST 2009
Bruce - this has got to be one of the most racist, ignorant comments
I've heard in a long time. Where is this glorified, nostalgic Rome you
speak of? This is the Second Life Educators list, not the Western or
North American educator's list. While Linden Labs resides in
California, the virtual environment of which we speak is
multi-national / multi-lingual and cannot be situated within any
physical, geographical space. So to proclaim a "local" language and to
insist that all who reside, and more importantly, work, within this
virtual space should speak only one language is to also advocate some
sort of twisted, virtual colonialist takeover.
As a citizen of the United States, your comment is an embarrassment to
me, and I'm sure many other English-speaking people, and reinforces
the (obviously well-deserved) stereotype of North Americans who
believe the entire earth should revolve around them.
Instructor, New Century College
& Department of English
PhD student, Cultural Studies
George Mason University
Fairfax, VA 22030
kscotta at gmu.edu
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Bruce Sommerville <sledevents at gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that the right to speak in a language of choice is a basic human
> right. But I don't think this issue is a matter of 'rights'. It's a matter
> of effective communication and courtesy. As an analogy, if your native
> language is English, and you travel to a foreign country with a different
> culture and language than your own, of course you have the right to speak in
> your own language while you are there, and very few (least of all me) will
> deny you that right. However, will it promote understanding and
> communication? Will it endear you to the local population? Almost certainly
> not. When in Rome, you do as the Romans do, and speak the local language to
> the extent that you can - even if it only the most basic phrases.
> Now, there is a new Rome, and it is called 'Earth', and its de facto
> language is English. And the vast majority of educated people speak, read,
> and write that language. So as a matter of common sense, it is helpful,
> progressive, and polite to use the global language in the global context -
> and the local language in the local context.
> Bruce Sommerville.
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:09 PM, CHRIS PIM <chris.pim at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> To my mind, the right to speak in a language of choice is pretty much a
>> basic human right...I would therefore support the notion that contributors
>> be encouraged to use any language that suits them best and that this 'right'
>> be made explicit by LL on the entry page.
>> From: Frederic Emam-Zade <femamzade at mac.com>
>> To: SL Educators <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009 9:24:02 AM
>> Subject: [SLED] Message for NON-ENGLISH SLED MEMBERS
>> The ongoing debate in spanish and english about whether the SLED list
>> should be only in english or multilingual is an interesting and very
>> important debate, for the future of this list.
>> My particular inclination is toward contributing to the maintenance of ONE
>> SLED list, inclusive of all languages and respectful of the freedom of each
>> member to communicate in the language of their choice.
>> I believe the pros outweigh the cons.
>> However, if Linden Labs want this to happen, someone (Pathfinder Linden?)
>> will have to lower the main barrier to entry into this list and modify the
>> entry page which is ONLY in english and the first barrier/challenge that any
>> non english speaker/reader has to overcome to enter here. There is also a
>> question in the entry page that asks: Which language do you prefer to
>> display your messages? and only leaves one option: English (USA). Both
>> facts, the language of the entry page and the question without options,
>> seems to imply that only english is spoken here.
>> It would be helpful to get the opinion of other english only or
>> non-english speaking SLED members that would like to have the option of not
>> having or having several entry pages in several languages and exercizing or
>> not exercizing their freedom to express themselves in the language of their
>> choice in this list.
>> Zage Farman in SL
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