[SLED] Adult Content in Faculty Profiles--What to Do?
eloisepasteur at gmail.com
Wed Feb 4 14:54:54 PST 2009
I'm not saying you're wrong with what the rules are. I'm not quite
sure how that holds up with your constitutional rights to freedom of
speech and expression though.
That doesn't mean if I was in your position, I'd be the one taking my
employers to court for infringing my constitutional rights mind,
although I like to think I'm brave enough to do it.
On 4 Feb 2009, at 16:57, Martin, Jocelyn wrote:
> During the last election, my state university reminded us that it is
> illegal for us to wear or post in our offices, any material
> endorsing a specific candidate or side in an issue. I could put up a
> sign urging students and staff to vote, but if I suggested how or
> for whom they should vote, I’d be in violation of policy, and up for
> State employees of any sort cannot electioneer on state time, and
> that’s generally true of county employees, too.
> From: educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com [mailto:educators-bounces at lists.secondlife.com
> ] On Behalf Of Eloise Pasteur
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:21 PM
> To: SL Educators (aka & amp; quot; The SLED List& amp; quot; )
> Subject: Re: [SLED] Adult Content in Faculty Profiles--What to Do?
> On 3 Feb 2009, at 20:11, Dittmann, Robert M. wrote:
> I think the difference is that our avs don’t just represent us, they
> represent our institutions.
> You may think that, but I think you're wrong.
> To some extent you represent your institution IRL - if you, to
> misquote, rape the bursar in the quad, or rape him at home, it's not
> Robby DIttmann was arrested for rape, it's Robby Dittmann of Darton
> College was arrested for rape. Similarly, as an adult living in the
> UK I'm legally allowed to have sex with anyone over the age of 16
> (age of majority here) EXCEPT that because I'm a teacher I'm not
> legally allowed to have sex with any student from "my" institution
> under the age of 18 (they're specifically covered by The Children
> Act), and I'm ethically constrained (although not at risk of being
> sacked, blacklisted or similar in my current job) from having sex
> with those I teach over the age of 18. Trying to claim AVs are
> different in that they represent the institution doesn't hold water
> in that direction.
> In the other direction avatars represent people, not institutions.
> Because you represent an element of your institution and your avatar
> represents some or all of you your avatar may represent an element
> of your institution, but no more than you do. It doesn't hold water
> that way either.
> Doesn’t your employer have the right to tell you not to wear a
> school hat while you engage in behavior they don’t approve of or not
> to wear a t-shirt about that activity in the classroom.
> Did you really write that? Don't you come from a country that
> promotes freedom of speech and freedom of expression and enshrines
> those values in it constitution? I have no such constitutional
> rights and whilst my institution could (theoretically) object to a t-
> shirt as not being tidy enough (in practise they'd have to sack
> about 50% of the teaching staff if they did and there is no formal
> dress code beyond those imposed by health and safety concerns), I
> can't think of any opinion not containing racist, sexist or similar
> language I could express via a button, t-shirt or similar that would
> get me into trouble. I've seen senior members of staff displaying
> support for campaigns to legalise cannabis, stop the war in Iraq,
> pro and anti various campaigns for prisoner release and more. I
> wasn't working during that part of the 80's but the "Maggie out" and
> "Support the miners" stickers, buttons and the like were common. I
> assume that, whether or not the senior administration of the
> university supported such opinions, they also would not attempt to
> limit their staff from expressing those opinions. Just because the
> staff are clearly on the payroll and working, doesn't mean they're
> not allowed to express their own opinions.
>> Robby Dittmann
>> Enrollment Counselor
>> Division of Online Learning
>> Darton College
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>> From: jeremy hunsinger <jhuns at vt.edu>
>> Reply-To: "SL Educators (aka &" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
>> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:58:29 -0500
>> To: "SL Educators (aka & amp; quot; The SLED List& amp;
>> quot; )" <educators at lists.secondlife.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SLED] Adult Content in Faculty Profiles--What to Do?
>> Folks can do whatever they want, but the idea is that we, as a group,
>> should not force them to do so. Nor should we necessarily judge
>> someone to not be worth our time just because a group does not prefer
>> them. Instead, individuals do what they want, and we go back to the
>> way it used to be in LL, live and let live.
>> On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:51 PM, TammyJo Eckhart, PhD wrote:
>> > Can't folks just have different avatars for their private and their
>> > professional lives?
>> > Sincerely,
>> > TJ Eckhart
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