Reply to Ellen:[SLED] The Unification project?

Barbara Payne payne at
Mon Apr 9 11:34:32 PDT 2007


I agree with you on all points concerning unification of the grid for TSL.

I would prefer that they create a separate grid/island that is some sort of merged community with heavy controls from Linden.  It should be easy enough to copy/move a building and any educational training materials onto that location from within the adult SL area?  Perhaps a location that is locked down until Linden or subcommittee review?  Not sure if they would head that way given their avoidance of "policing" SL.


Dr. Barbara Payne McLain
Professor of Music Education
University of Hawaii-Manoa
(808) 956-2172
President, MENC Western Division

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jakovich, Ellen" <EJakovich at>
Date: Monday, April 9, 2007 7:49 am
Subject: RE: [SLED] The Unification project?
To: SL Educators <educators at>

> Although I see some advantages of unifying TSL with SL, such as 
> parent-teen sandbox building and "quality time" for divorced 
> parents separated from their kids, I'll be brutally honest.  I 
> absolutely abhor the idea of the two grids being unified, and I 
> don't want to see it happen.  I put this teen protest in the same 
> category as when my 14 year old wants to park the car "for 
> practice."  He's not old enough, so the answer is no.  
> I fully expect my stance to draw fire; however, my rationale is as 
> follows: 
> 1.  Although I would die for my two teenage boys if necessary, 
> loving them doesn't mean I want to "hang out" with them.  I 
> especially don't want to hang out with their friends, or teenagers 
> in general.   I have my own friends and interests.  And as a 
> teacher, I hold that being "buddies" with teens can sometimes get 
> in the way of teaching them.  
> 2.  Once teens have access to the main grid--PG areas only, of 
> course--it becomes much easier to hack into the Mature areas.  The 
> main obstacle--that of non-interconnected grids--has been removed.  
> No amount of security can convince me that teens will not be able 
> to figure out how to gain access.  For Pete's sake--teens have 
> hacked into national security systems.  I'm sure they can--and will-
> -overcome SL's security.
> 3.  If the two grids are combined, I will be the first to limit my 
> activities in SL to only teaching.  It will no longer be the escape 
> many adults enjoy.  If you think about it, I'm sure many of you 
> speak differently--and with more abandon--with your adult friends 
> than you would with a teenager.  If the grids are combined, any 
> avatar you meet could potentially be a teen.  For me, that takes 
> away my incentive to use SL as an escape, and though many of you 
> may disagree, I'm sure there are many more who will bail from SL as 
> well, taking their dollars with them.
> Ellen Jakovich
> Associate Professor
> DeVry Metro DC
> 703-414-4130
> ejakovich at
> ________________________________
> From: educators-bounces at on behalf of Barry Joseph
> Sent: Mon 4/9/2007 9:24 AM
> To: SL Educators
> Subject: [SLED] The Unification project?
> We just learned of what is perhaps the first teen-led activism
> campaign in Second Life ABOUT SL. It has the potential to impact both
> grids. They are calling it the Unification project. There are a
> number of elements to it, but core feature if maintaining the teen
> grid but give teens access to PG areas of the main grid.
> Thoughts?
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