[SLED] Insider versus newcomer?

Jeremy Koester jeremykoester at gmail.com
Thu Apr 5 12:14:11 PDT 2007

So Kelly, are you saying that there is nothing more than clever marketing
regarding the use of gaming in educational settings?  I don't mean to argue,
just looking for clarification.

On 4/5/07, Kelly Christopherson <kwhobbes at gmail.com> wrote:
> As someone over 35, I'm often struck by how much time has been devoted to
> a concept that has been used as a marketing ploy. The whole idea is that if
> you aren't a "native" you won't understand how the "natives" learn, which is
> different, so let them play videogames because it is how they learn. It is a
> concept set up to suggest that those of us that "older" won't understand the
> whole learning by video game idea, which, by the way, is silly. It was
> introduced to sell video games and introduce them as learning tools. Now,
> video games came out in the 70's and I've been playing for, oh, 30+ years. I
> game, albeit, not as much as I use to due to job & other commitments. But
> somehow it's like we invented this whole gaming/adhd phenom in the last 5
> years. Forget about the 'native/immigrant' thing. Some people are adept at
> technology, some aren't. You can find examples from any age. Females use it
> differently than males. If we keep dividing things, we'll have so many
> labels we won't know what to do. We're all surrounded by it, some people
> catch on quicker than others regardless of how old they are. Yet another
> example of great marketing.
> On 4/5/07, Tjarda Sixma <tjardasixma at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> >
> > An alternative to 'native' versus 'immigrant' might be: 'insider'
> > versus 'newcomer' (Lankshear and Knobel 2006). It gets round some
> > negative connotations. But in a way it boils down to the same.
> >
> > Another thing that I find interesting in this concept is that often a
> > line is drawn at age 35; eventhough people under 35 aren't raised
> > with digital technology (as a native is raised in a certain country).
> > In that respect only people under 20 or so (depending of many factors
> > that have to do with the 'digital divide') should be called 'natives'.
> >
> > Tjarda
> >
> >
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