Avatar names / voice chat

Aline Click N10ARC1 at wpo.cso.niu.edu
Fri Mar 31 06:59:36 PST 2006

I just find it funny that several months after I signed on my RL last
name all of a sudden was in the list. "Click" isn't that common. So now
to see names like David Click (which is my son's name) in game is odd. I
also saw this happen with several other names of my team members. Are
real last names where you get your inspiration for the list?

Aline Click
aka, Ali Andrews

>>> robin at lindenlab.com 03/30/06 8:42 PM >>>
I can't resist, but have to weigh in on the naming issue.

When we created SL, it was with the idea that people would create a  
new identity for themselves.  We were thinking about online community 

and the context was MUDS, games and online chat where the norm was  
anonymity and often, role-playing.  We were much more focused on  
thinking about how to make it easier for anonymous residents to meet  
other anonymous residents (hence the common last names) than on the  
possibility of extending real life roles into SL.

Obviously things have changed significantly since then, and we all  
appreciate the learning potential of SL.  Along with that, we've seen 

a significant increase in requests for choosing names, both real  
names and custom last names, and we're working on a project that  
should make that possible.  There will be a fee associated with the  
option, but if you would prefer to forego anonymity and use your real 

name, you will be able to do that.  The timing is most likely months  
away, but hopefully before the next school year begins.


On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Jeremy Kemp wrote:

> I agree wholeheartedly that being able to CHOOSE a real or SL name  
> is very important for earning credibility in demos. It's already an
> uncomfortable strain constantly assuring bosses and clients that  
> this is not a Dungeons and Dragon's style role-playing game (one  
> with a predetermined narrative). So, if the system doesn't have a 

> set narrative, why are users forced into a set role-play persona?
> As for the voice thread, I think it definitely adds a great deal of 

> emotional depth. And it speeds up collaborative building while  
> allowing for hands-free communication. But in a group of users, if  
> just ONE player doesn't have access, then the voice server is  
> barely useful. It's kind of like an inverse network effect. Each  
> user without the chat tool makes the group substantially less  
> effective. Kind of like doing a group project where half the  
> attendees are deaf. You can't have a fast conversation in voice  
> while half are limited to keyboard. So it is really an all or none  
> tool, I think.
> --Jeremy
> From: educators-bounces at forego [forgo:educators- 
> bounces at lists.lindenlab.com] On Behalf Of Ramesh Ramloll
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:43 AM
> To: Educators interested in using Second Life as a teaching
> Subject: Re: Vernor Vinge writes in Nature about the future of the  
> Internetas a research tool (and mentions Second Life)
> Yep,
> I concur. We are forced to have names that really are not  
> representative of anything some of us even feel like in real life  
> while we are supposed to be able to express ourselves more  
> accurately in a plethora of ways in SL ;)
> Most names have a role playing flair to it. and while this is  
> important to many, this does not ring well at all when i am giving  
> demos...the first thing people do is to LAUGH loudly at my name and 

> the names of others.
> On 3/30/06, metaXLR8 <metaxlr8 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Vinge's article is very good - like nearly everything he writes.
> I believe Stephenson's vision in Snow Crash is coming true and VR is
> going mainstream.
> So I think in a few years VR will be a common interface mode for the
> web and there will be more and more "real" applications to business,
> education, social interaction, even politics. I think SL is given
> good examples here, also described in Philip Rosedale's keynote at
> Serious Games Summit.
> By the way Pathfinder, maybe you can explain a SL arcane to me, why
> are we unable to use our real names in SL? I wish to meet business
> associates in VR using my real name. Is there a technical reason?
> I think the same of using real names and voice chat. It should not
> enforced on anyone, but teh option should be available to everyone.
> G.
> On 3/30/06, Terry Beaubois <beaubois at rdcinteractive.com> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent!!!!
> >
> > On 3/30/06 7:50 AM, "Pathfinder Linden" <  
> pathfinder at lindenlab.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy folks,
> > >
> > > In case you missed it last week, Vernor Vinge wrote a piece for 

> Nature
> > > last week:
> > >
> > > 2020 Computing: The creativity machine - What will emerge from  
> using
> > > the Internet as a research tool? The answer, Vernor Vinge  
> argues, will
> > > be limited only by our imaginations.
> > >
> > > http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060320/full/440411a.html 
> > >
> > > In case you're not familiar with Vernor Vinge, he is a writer  
> who came
> > > to prominence in 1981 with his novella True Names, one of the  
> earliest
> > > stories to present a fully fleshed-out concept of cyberspace. 
> > > having him specifically mention Second Life is kind of like  
> having Tim
> > > Berners-Lee mention your website. ;)
> > >
> > > -Pathfinder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Lester
> > > Community and Education Manager, Linden Lab
> > > * Second Life Name - Pathfinder Linden
> > > * Second Life Office  - http://tinyurl.com/njt7q 
> > > * Second Life Campus - http://tinyurl.com/nfjt2 
> > > * Second Life Websites - http://del.icio.us/secondlife 
> >
> >
> >
> -- 
> Rameshsharma Ramloll PhD Research Assistant Professor Idaho State  
> University, PocatelloTel: 208-282-5333

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